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Foghorn79
05-22-2008, 09:29 PM
I was asked about what I do to catch rockfish (Stripped Bass) down here in Southern MD. I believe the best way to learn is to share lessons learned among other fishermen, and we all benefit from openly sharing our tips and tactics.

I mostly troll White and Chartreuse parachute rigs, umbrella rigs, daisy chains; tandem, and mojos when they are deep.

In the spring and fall I can handle all five out the back by myself. Summer usually gets a little crazy with the blues so I drop down to only 3 rods. I don't use planner boards or downriggers. If I need to go deep I just add more weight.

A typical setup is pretty common. 80Lb powerpro main line on a http://www.carolinaskiffowner.com/images/smilies/worshipper.gifPenn 330GTX and a Penn Slammer rod. I tie on a ball bearing coastlock, then weight, then another coastlock, to 80 or 50 LB mono (18 feet) down to the umbrella, parachute, mojo, or tandem.

This setup works great in the summer when I'm trolling for blues/spanish mackerel too. I can lighten the mono down to 30 LB to allow for smaller spoons, rubber eels, and bucktail jigs.

Occasionally I'll set up a chum line anchored on a deep drop line or "the humps". I'll start chumming fresh menhaden, get a good slick going and drift cut bait strips of menhaden, or spot on a 7ft med heavy rod with 40 LB power pro, usually no weight unless the tide is cooking. If I catch live spot, I will live line them too off a 7-8ft rod with a Penn Live liner reel, and the same 40 LB power pro.

Here is the way I troll my lines behind my skiff

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk219/Foghorn79/HPIM0020.jpg

Rod 1 = 10 to 12 oz, 90 feet back
Rod 2 = 4 oz, 140 ft back
Rod 3 = no weight, 200 ft back
Rod 4 = 2 oz, 160 ft back
Rod 5 = 6 or 10 oz, 120 ft back

The weight is extra to the weight of the rig. Most of my rigs use 3-5 oz parachutes with 9" shad. The weight is an inline model naturally.

This setup allows me to make turns without tangling up the lines. You still need to exercise caution when turning. Don't make sudden turns, rather just make slight corrections to get yourself where you need to be.

I like using the Penn 330GTXs because I know that each time the wind bar goes from side to side it lets out approx. 10 ft of line.

I troll about 2.5 - 3 MPH in the spring and late fall, and speed up to about 3.5 - 5 MPH in the summer. A lot of that depends on water temp. I will even get up to 6 when the Spanish Mackerel make their way up the bay in late summer. Remember that if you use mono the diameter is larger so your trolling depths will decrease as opposed to using powerpro or some other braid due to increased drag.

What about the rest of you? Don't just limit this to rockfish, I travel occasionally and when I do I tend to bring a rod or setup some charter. I hope this post is OK in this section. I was torn between here and placing it in the Northeast but since I've used this in Hatteras NC it could apply to a lot of different regions.
*Cheers*

Shakespeare
05-22-2008, 10:09 PM
I hope this post is OK in this section. I was torn between here and placing it in the Northeast but since I've used this in Hatteras NC it could apply to a lot of different regions.

Perfect!!! *Cheers*

Now that's some good info! Thanks Foghorn.

Mike C.

wblack
05-23-2008, 07:09 AM
Foghorn79..............GREAT info! Thanks for sharing all that. Of course, It'll take me several reads to take it all in. I am not familiar with the "ballbearing coastlock" term.......what is that?

I can't wait to see pics of the rod-holder too!

Maaaan, I would love to fish those waters one day! Ya'll really have some rod slamming going on, I'm sure!

Great post! *thumbsup* Thanks!

Shakespeare
05-23-2008, 07:22 AM
I am not familiar with the "ballbearing coastlock" term.......what is that?


Wes, I just stocked up on a bunch of those at Cabellas.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pod/horizontal-pod.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/pod-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat20166-cat20293&rid=&indexId=cat20293&navAction=push&masterpathid=&navCount=3&parentType=index&parentId=cat20293&id=0017529

They have their own brand, there's Sampo and also Spro.

Mike C.

wblack
05-23-2008, 07:29 AM
I'll be deadgum............thanks Shake!

Foghorn79-I am assuming you use two swivels to keep the wieght from moving up the line? Is this the only reason?


Wes, I just stocked up on a bunch of those at Cabellas.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pod/horizontal-pod.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/pod-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat20166-cat20293&rid=&indexId=cat20293&navAction=push&masterpathid=&navCount=3&parentType=index&parentId=cat20293&id=0017529

They have their own brand, there's Sampo and also Spro.

Mike C.

Foghorn79
05-23-2008, 10:03 AM
The 2 coastlock swivels attach to each end of the inline weight. An inline weight has open loops on each end that allow you to attach the clip end of the coastlock. This allows me to change weight without needing to retie, and to absorb the spin placed on the leader by some spoons and other lures.

Main line
Coastlock
inline weight
coastlock
leader
lure

The leader is tied directly to the 2nd coastlock

shaggy3131
05-23-2008, 10:14 AM
Foghorn,
Great description. I wish I knew all the parts you talked about: unbrellas, parachutes, mojo, etc.

I'm a very visual learner. Would you be willing to post photos of some of your rigs?

Thanks, Aubrey

WannabeeFishing
05-23-2008, 12:07 PM
Good information. I troll for freshwater stripers on my local lakes. (one guide just boated a 35# monster). I'm trying to get proficient enough to handle that many rods.

dink51
05-23-2008, 06:18 PM
down here in VA, bay bridge tunnel and eastern shore area that is just about the same. although those tactics for trolling, daist chians, umbrellas, stetches, mojos and big bucktails mostly what i use, are the same more and more people are eeling on the drift or just set up in the pylons and just drop eel's straight down (very effective at nite).

Foghorn79
05-23-2008, 09:14 PM
Tandem rig Top line about 5 feet, bottom about 3 ft. Heaviest jig always on the bottom. This is an 8 oz, 3 up top 5 on the bottom:

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk219/Foghorn79/tandemrig.jpg

Mojo when you want to get DEEP, this is a 20 oz you can set these up on a 3 way like the tandem above:

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk219/Foghorn79/mojo.jpg

Umbrella, there are all different kinds of bars, 6 spoke, double shad 4 spoke and so on.:

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk219/Foghorn79/umbrellarig.jpg

Parachute and bucktail:
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk219/Foghorn79/parachute-bucktail.jpg

Inline sinker come in all weights I get 1 oz - 20 oz:
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk219/Foghorn79/coastlock.jpg

Daisy chain, hard to photo:

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk219/Foghorn79/daisychain.jpg

Sorry about the sad shape of these, they are a little beat up;D

Dink51, I always wanted to fish down that way. Never have. You still catching the big girls or have they already turned the corner to head north? What about the blues have they come in yet?

wblack
05-23-2008, 09:46 PM
Ohhhhhh maaaaaannn...............That's great stuff Foghorn79!

Glad to know you have some hometown folk up there with you now!!! Great fishing all around Mooresville, every direction within an hour!

Thanks for all the wonderful info!

dink51
05-23-2008, 11:16 PM
foghorn,
i have heard they are catching a lot of smaller stuff in decent numbers and also that biggers ones begin caught in the later parts of the day. just what i have heard from a few. im more of a cold weather stripper guy. right now the drum (red and black) are getiing hooked with some 40+ pound fish. havent had a chance to get out for i am in school and havent had the time. it is a great area, anything you want it will come around at soem point. just waiting for the cobia to show up along with the king and spanish. flounder have been few and fare between with increase to size being 19 keepers and the area is pounded everey day so its tough to find a decent spot that isnt being fished, but i will still be killing time looking for that 10 pound flattie.


oh the cow nosed rays are in....those might be the easiest catch this time of year

shaggy3131
05-24-2008, 01:21 PM
Foghorn,

Thanks for the photos. They are a great help for a beginner like me.

Aubrey

Foghorn79
05-24-2008, 08:28 PM
foghorn,
oh the cow nosed rays are in....those might be the easiest catch this time of year


GREAT *nutkick*. Rays, the other white meat.

Thanks for the report. It lets me know what might be coming my way and when.

I wish cobia and kings got up here. I really want to try catching those.

dink51
05-24-2008, 08:45 PM
yeah never really gotten into a bunch of kings but they are a fight, and cobia are great. how far north are you?.......ill be sure to let the rays pass by and keep all the good fish down here.

Dave
05-28-2008, 07:54 PM
Terrific report and great job on providing the details Foghorn! I may try some of that stuff here in the Carolinas *Cheers*

Dave

lakebiker
05-28-2008, 09:19 PM
Great report and pics. Gonna try some of that stuff myself. *018**018*

Foghorn79
05-29-2008, 03:20 PM
dink51 - I'm up here at the mouth of the Potomac (Point Lookout area) You can keep the rays. I'll compromise with you though, just let a few more Spanish Mack get there way up here.

Dave and lakebiker. Thanks. I have used some of these tactics when in the USCG down there (OBX) but in the ocean. Let me know how it works for you.