Had the boat down to the yacht club today

[Harry]

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/aclineman/Truckboatrig.jpg

[TooTall]

OK! What did you do to the picture???
That not 23 feet!!!! That looks like a battle ship!!!
WoW how long is it really?

Charlie

[Harry]

LOL,
Seriously, no photoshopping here ...

Between the truck and trailer I need a class A drivers liscence ... ROTFLMAO

[schmo]

Yea TOOTALL that boat looks bigger than the house behind it :secret: mabye its a 25 with 23 sticker on it :secret:

[Randell]

LOL,
Between the truck and trailer I need a class A drivers liscence ... ROTFLMAO


It is not that far away . . .
This is from THT. Those N.C. Hwy Patrol boys have been giving the folks in NC
a hard time over weight and width.

I am supprises some of those Crystal Coast boys haven't brought this up.




BOAT TOWING LAWS IN A (quite complicated) NUTSHELL:

Chapter 20-4.01(31)(e) of the North Carolina General Statutes describes a boat trailer as a property hauling vehicle. Therefore, the following General Statutes would be applicable to boats being moved for recreational purposes.

License weight requirements: In regards to the weight of the vehicles, a boat and trailer which is being towed by a truck or another vehicle such as a commercial cargo van that is classified as a property hauling vehicle, must be included for gross weight purposes when determining the amount of weight that the truck or van can legally pull. The vehicle must be registered for the gross vehicle weight of the truck/van, trailer, and boat, along with any other items located within these vehicles. For example, if the truck weighs 4,000 pounds and the boat and trailer have a combined weight of 10,000 pounds, then adding the two weights together results in a total gross vehicle weight of 14,000 pounds. Therefore, the truck must be licensed for at least 14,000 pounds to ensure compliance with the license weight requirements under N.C.G.S. Chapter 20-88. Private passenger vehicles such as SUVs are not considered property hauling vehicles; therefore, they are not subject to the license weight requirements of N.C.G.S. Chapter 20-88.

Size and load restrictions: In regards to the size of the boat being transported, Chapter 20-116(a) limits the size of a vehicle and its load to 102 inches in width. Any vehicle or load which exceeds 102 inches, and is a non-divisible load as a single boat would be, is required to obtain a special permit from the North Carolina Department of Transportation (DOT), in accordance with General Statute 20-119. Many of the larger boats that are over 102 inches in width are required to obtain an over-width permit from the North Carolina Department of Transportation permit office, and they must comply with certain restrictions as indicated on the permit. These over-width permits require compliance with certain restrictions and do not allow for movement at any time on Sundays, and certain holidays and only during daylight hours on other days.

Application of Federal Motor Carrier Regulations: There has been some confusion as to whether a boat that is used for sport fishing is regulated differently than a boat that is used only for recreational purposes.

A vehicle would be subject to the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations (49 CFR Parts 390 - 397) if:

• The vehicle is used to transport property or passengers in commerce.

• The combined weight rating of the vehicle(s) exceeds 10,000 pounds gross vehicle weight rating if operating in inter-state commerce, (operates in multi states) or exceeds 26,000 pounds gross vehicle weight rating if operating in intra-state commerce, (operates only in North Carolina).

• Prize money is declared as ordinary income for tax purposes and is deducted as a business expense for tax purposes.

• Corporate sponsorship is involved.

• When the vehicles activities are undertaken for profit.

The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations would not apply to the following:

• Vehicles used for the transportation of personal property by individuals, not for compensation, and not in the furtherance of a commercial enterprise.

Consistent with these regulations, a boat owner may participate in fishing tournaments and may win prizes, including cash prizes, without becoming subject to the federal regulations. In this case, the driver would not be required to maintain a log book, have a medical card or be subject to federal inspection if used for recreational purposes.

Commercial drivers license requirement: Pursuant to G.S. 20-37.12, a driver must possess a Commercial Drivers License if he operates a commercial motor vehicle on a street or highway. G.S. 20-4.01(2a) defines a Class (A) Commercial Motor Vehicle that has a combined GVWR of at least 26,001 pounds and that has a towed unit with a GVWR of at least 10,001 pounds. A Class (B) Commercial Drivers License is required when the towing unit has a GVWR of at least 26,001 pounds and the towed unit has a GVWR of less than 10,001 pounds.

G.S. 20-37.16(e), however, excludes the CDL requirement for drivers of vehicles “used for personal use such as recreational vehicles.”

Drivers who are exempt from the CDL requirement by G.S. 20-37.16 must, pursuant to G.S. 20-7, possess the appropriate class driver’s license. Drivers who are exempt from the CDL requirement because the combined GVWR is less than 26,001 lbs and the GVWR of the towed unit is less than 10,001 lbs may tow the boat with a Class C license.

The North Carolina State Highway Patrol is currently providing this information to North Carolina boating marinas, and manufactures in an attempt to educate and raise compliance.

Source: Maj. Jamie J. Hatcher, N.C. Highway Patrol

For more information, call (919) 715-8683.

[Shakespeare]

I am supprises some of those Crystal Coast boys haven't brought this up.

I can't speak for the rest of the NC members, but some of this stuff isn't a secret... been running weighted tags for a few years now. Very aware or the 10,000lb limitation and the 13 ton Class A & B restrictions. Actually there is a forum scheduled on April 21st to discuss transporting oversized recreational and commercial boats in NC. That is going to be in Wilmington.

Anyway... thanks Randell for bring this to the forefront. If we discuss this further we need to spawn it off as a separate topic.

Mike C.

[Harry]

Yes,
Thank Randell. And by the way I do have a Class "A" liscence. Were required for the trucks at work. So if Linework doesn't work out for me I could drive the " BIG RIGS" .... ROTFLMAO