Starboard and bottom paint, what to do ?

[Harry]

While at the boat show I ordered a piece of starboard, well it came in today.

I want to cut a little piece and glue it to the lower transom to attach the transducer too, without drilling into the hull.

I assume 5200 is the way to go as far as adhesive? I'm having the bottom prepped, primed, & painted with alibative paint, (the kind that wears off) .

So I guess , now would be the time (before the paint) too install the starboard? Can it be painted over ?

Thanks

[DIVERHERB]

Harry I have never had any luck with anything sticking to starboard, paint or adhesive. That is what makes it attractive for certain uses to many people. 006

[o2bfishn]

I don’t think so, it’s an oil based product, I don't believe paint will stick. Glue it on with 5200, I added some screws- well sealed, but you probably get away with out the screws.

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[Harry]

I thought the reason you guys that added the starboard, is so you can screw your transducer to the starboard and not breech the hull 006

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I thought the reason you guys that added the starboard, is so you can screw your transducer to the starboard and not breech the hull 006

The reason is that in case has to be adjusted up,down,left or right, you don't have to drill the boat all the time.What i had done was fiberglass a piece of epoxy sealed plywood on all edges and both surfaces and then after i glue it with 5200 on the transom.Starboard will not stick with 5200, eventually will come off. thumbsup

[shaggy3131]

The precut piece of Starboard I purchased from Bass Pro Shop for installation of the transducer and speed wheel had two holes predrilled. I drilled 4 additional holes to insure attachment to the transom. I sealed the screws and holes with 4200, placed a bead of 4200 around each screwhole on the back of the Starboard, and placed a bead of 4200 around the outside perimeter of the board. Finally I installed a bead of 4200 around the joint between the board and the transom. I used 4200 (a couple weeks ago) because of quicker curing and lower temperature curing. Also, I used 4200 because I didn't want an absolutely permanent bond, just a waterproof seal. However, from what I hear about Starboard, you can't make a really permanent bond with it with any adhesive. At somepoint, I will draw an additional bead of 4200 around the joint between the board and the transom. I hope this is OK. The Starboard really does hold mounting screws well. I also applied 4200 to the countersunk screw heads.

[Familymanof5]

Take two pieces of starboard and shoot a little Vulkem between. Let it set up and then try to get them apart.


FM5

[shaggy3131]

Does Vulkem come from the planet Vlukenite?

[brokebeach5011]

What is vulkem. ???

[Fillet1]

I think its a construction sealant??

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What is vulkem. ???


I beleive is a special epoxy for rubber. 012

[brevoortia]

Harry,
I have read that you can indeed use 5200 to adhere starboard to the transom. Use a router to create a crosshatch patten on the backside of the starboard. Apply the 5200 to the starboard, and it will create a pseudo mechanical bond. Then you can screw your transducer into the starboard. Even if the bond doesn't last forever, so what, you lose the transducer and the starboard. Worst case you buy both components again.

I should point out that I haven't done this, but have read about it. I plan to use this process to make a rod holder my boat.

Hope it helps.

[o2bfishn]

Harry, secret


I added screws to the starboard because I was not sure if 5200 would hold to the board, I used lots of 5200 and I am sure I got a good seal. Now I can adjust, move, add, take off and change out any transducer or trolling wheel without put anymore holes or leaving any unused holes in my hull. That’s is the reason you use starboard, to keep from drilling holes in the hull every time you want to add or remove something. thumbsup


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[Harry]

Harry,
I have read that you can indeed use 5200 to adhere starboard to the transom. Even if the bond doesn't last forever, so what, you lose the transducer and the starboard. Worst case you buy both components again.

I should point out that I haven't done this, but have read about it. I plan to use this process to make a rod holder my boat.

Hope it helps.


And beat the piss out of my engine in the process ... :o With my luck when the starbiard and transom part ways it would suck the gramin off the console and jetizon it on a course with Davey Jones locker ... ;D

I like your dis-claimer
I should point out that I haven't done this, but have read about it


Anyway. Not sure if I even need to mount starboard. I mounted my last transducer on the 198 with not problems or need to move it around. Besides the mounting bracket is slotted for adjustment.
However if I do mount it, I think we all agree for the most part it needs to be glued & screwed, so what about the bottom paint ? will it stick or can I have them paint the bottom first mount it afterwards and the starboard will just grow fur and barnicals ?

[chumhead]

To be honest, when I left my boat in the water for 3 months, I had barnacles and slim on everything EXCEPT the poly strip. Seems that barnacles couldn't even get a grip on that stuff.

chumhead

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I had tried the crosscut idea on a piece of starboard, it held for 2 seasons, then it start coming off, i reapplied some 5200, but in the middle of winter i sold the boat so don't know what happend after that.

As far as barnacles sticking on starboard, NO. Nothing would stick to it.

[Dave]

I don't know Harry. I think I'd rather have a couple of holes in my transom than a spread of 5200 on that pretty gelcoat, plus the screw holes. With a small amount of marine silicone adhesive pressed into the holes before driving the screws in, the screws won't back out.

If you visit your local cabinet countertop fabricator, you should be able to get all the scrap pieces of solid surface countertop material for the asking. It's a polyester resin blend, usually 1/2 thick but can easily be face epoxied to double that thickness. Machines with common woodworking tools, (saws, routes, drills, and sand well) holds screws very well, 5200 sticks to it, and it is impervious to water and most chemicals. I've used it for many applications on my boats, and for other exterior purposes for years. So far, I've only used it on the inside of my CS console to mount a fuss buss - used 5200 and wedged it in place overnight while the 5200 cured. Larger pieces make a dandy fish cleaning or cutting board. What you see below is ½” thick piece about 18 by 30 that I use as a fish cleaning surface. Because of its slick and slippery surface, I coated the top surface with silicone added polyurethane paint to give a slightly rough surface. It's stiff, flat, and heavy - it stays put on top of the sawhorses. This board has been keep outside in the elements (sun, rain, hot & freezing temps) for more than 10 years without the slightest sign of determination.

Dave

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[chumhead]

Just remember, the transom of a CS is NOT flat....the material MUST be able to blend at least slightly in order to contour to the transom. My Lowe's cutting board has been on the boat for 2 years now, with no problems. I did drill 3 mounting holes for the board, but those are the only holes that will ever go into the transom, no matter how many times I move or re-mount my transducer/speed sensors.

chumhead

[Familymanof5]

Yes Vulkem is a type of construction adhesive.


Good Stuff

FM5

[NOTHING ELSE MATTERS]

Yes Vulkem is a type of construction adhesive.


Good Stuff

FM5



Where can you buy such a thing?